“NATO is a bulwark against Russian aggression and he was ready to walk out of that. There are other ways he treated the people of Muslim religious background. His dirty mouth. I think he’s pretty much an asshole, to quote a phrase, and it’s terrifying to me, at 80, to think that he would be one of the last presidents.”

“He could decimate social programs that I’ve been committed to and worked on for a very long time, and so there’s a whole variety, as well as his personal way of dealing with people and the world.”